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Postby San Soo Sifu » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:01 pm

Got Rough and Tumble?
Warning, long article...

http://ejmas.com/jmanly/articles/2001/j ... n_0401.htm
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Re: Got San Soo?

Postby Captain America » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:07 am

Wow!

Another great find from San Soo Sifu. As a brief introduction to the article and the very interesting content ...check out these few opening paragraphs from the article that was first published in The American Historical Review, volume 90, February to December 1985, pages 18-43.


"I would advise you when You do fight Not to act like Tygers and Bears as these Virginians do - Biting one anothers Lips and Noses off, and gowging one another - that is, thrusting out one anothers Eyes, and kicking one another on the Cods, to the Great damage of many a Poor Woman." [EN1] Thus, Charles Woodmason, an itinerant Anglican minister born of English gentry stock, described the brutal form of combat he found in the Virginia backcountry shortly before the American Revolution. Although historians are more likely to study people thinking, governing, worshiping, or working, how men fight -- who participates, who observes, which rules are followed, what is at stake, what tactics are allowed - reveals much about past cultures and societies.

The evolution of southern backwoods brawling from the late eighteenth century through the antebellum era can be reconstructed from oral traditions and travelers' accounts. As in most cultural history, broad patterns and uneven trends rather than specific dates mark the way. The sources are often problematic and must be used with care; some speculation is required. But the lives of common people cannot be ignored merely because they leave few records. "To feel for a feller's eyestrings and make him tell the news" was not just mayhem but an act freighted with significance for both social and cultural history. [EN2]

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As early as 1735, boxing was "much in fashion" in parts of Chesapeake Bay, and forty years later a visitor from the North declared that, along with dancing, fiddling, small swords, and card playing, it was an essential skill for all young Virginia gentlemen. [EN3] The term "boxing," however, did not necessarily refer to the comparatively tame style of bare-knuckle fighting familiar to eighteenth-century Englishmen. In 1746, four deaths prompted the governor of North Carolina to ask for legislation against "the barbarous and inhuman manner of boxing which so much prevails among the lower sort of people." The colonial assembly responded by making it a felony "to cut out the Tongue or pull out the eyes of the King's Liege People." Five years later the assembly added slitting, biting, and cutting off noses to the list of offenses. Virginia passed similar legislation in 1748 and revised these statutes in 1772 explicitly to discourage men from "gouging, plucking, or putting out an eye, biting or kicking or stomping upon" quiet peaceable citizens. By 1786 South Carolina had made premeditated mayhem a capital offense, defining the crime as severing another's bodily parts. [EN4]

Laws notwithstanding, the carnage continued. Philip Vickers Fithian, a New Jerseyite serving as tutor for an aristocratic Virginia family, confided to his journal on September 3, 1774:



Real "street" fighting (or even "backwoods hillbilly" fighting) vs MMA anyone???

Reading the whole historical article is well worth a San Soo man's time...

Just follow the link above...
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Got San Soo?

Postby San Soo Sifu » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:45 am

Thanks Captain, for the kudos!

I think it is worth noting from reading these historical accounts, that the person who ended up on TOP usually was the one who took out his opponent's eyeball.

Moral of the story: Perhaps Freestyle Wrestling (top position) is a better compliment to Kung-Fu San Soo; rather than Gracie Jiu-Jitsu (bottom position). After all, gravity can either be your best friend; or your worst enemy. Just a thought.
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Re: Got San Soo?

Postby Captain America » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:41 pm

http://www.roughandtumblefighting.com/

At the above web site click on "Self Defense by Wesley Brown" (it's the only link on the page, so doing this shouldn't be too hard...)


Then you have a 90 plus pages of a book online written in 1951.


If that ain't good ole Rough and Tumble San Soo, then The Captain's not aknowin' what is.


You will see mostly good stuff there.
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